One benefit, if you can call it that, of being two spirit, or third gender, is the disposition of experiencing both male and female cultures equally and simultaneously. I understand with all my being the feeling of "cozy;" and of deep, of both logical analysis and emotion/intuition-based decision making.
Many think of the male and female spirit as opposite, which they are not. But rather each pools its own family of characteristics, grinning at its counterpart across an avenue cobbled with intrigue. The masculine and feminine operate with their own, very unique vocabularies of experience.
Some things are easier to explain, like the sensation of body hair. Even if woman could, few would be willing to grow the soft, matted body armor of men. Some men do shave or wax, for various reasons--swimming, cycling; but for most I doubt that the idea ever arises. Pity, for the contrasts between body forestry and smooth, exposed flanks is invigorating.
Remove the hair, and your perception of temperature will drop by at least ten degrees. Does anyone question why, aside from differences in body mass, women chill more readily than men?
With my skin exposed beneath pants and shirt, I become acutely aware of being clothed, of fabric swaying against skin. The nature of the fabric becomes much more apparent, too. Of course, women's clothing tends to be of a much finer weave and lighter weight. This is less apparent to a man, except perhaps to the eye. Shaved arms and legs are fully perceptive of these tactile differences.
Life is more gentle without body hair; movement more liquid and serene. That mat of insulating hair does isolate one from the natural environment. Most guys will simply never appreciate this. Very few women will ever comprehend how that insulation of body hair provides for the man a greater sense of security.
Many think of the male and female spirit as opposite, which they are not. But rather each pools its own family of characteristics, grinning at its counterpart across an avenue cobbled with intrigue. The masculine and feminine operate with their own, very unique vocabularies of experience.
Some things are easier to explain, like the sensation of body hair. Even if woman could, few would be willing to grow the soft, matted body armor of men. Some men do shave or wax, for various reasons--swimming, cycling; but for most I doubt that the idea ever arises. Pity, for the contrasts between body forestry and smooth, exposed flanks is invigorating.
Remove the hair, and your perception of temperature will drop by at least ten degrees. Does anyone question why, aside from differences in body mass, women chill more readily than men?
With my skin exposed beneath pants and shirt, I become acutely aware of being clothed, of fabric swaying against skin. The nature of the fabric becomes much more apparent, too. Of course, women's clothing tends to be of a much finer weave and lighter weight. This is less apparent to a man, except perhaps to the eye. Shaved arms and legs are fully perceptive of these tactile differences.
Life is more gentle without body hair; movement more liquid and serene. That mat of insulating hair does isolate one from the natural environment. Most guys will simply never appreciate this. Very few women will ever comprehend how that insulation of body hair provides for the man a greater sense of security.
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Re: To hirsute, or not to hirsute?
Sat, October 6, 2007 - 12:54 AMThere are some menwho do enjoy the feel of being hairless and enjoy it for all the seame reasons you talk about. I started shaving my legs because of my love of cycling tho why it matters in that sport I just don't know but it does bond us cyclists together. I found immediatly that hairless legs add a new and for me very sensual dimension to clothing and to being with another guy. Since my earlier ventures I long ago added shaving all the rest of my body parts to my regular routine. I can only say that it has become a very pleasurable routine in my life to shave, too feel clean sheets on hairless legs and a hairless back.
And as you say it does add a greater understanding of the importance of fabrics that many other men avoid but only add new sensations.
Both the shaving and my introductions to new fabrics have in many ways helped me accept the feminine in my nature and has exsenuated my desires and my openness to the other gender. It is a journey that I am enjoying and finding new ways to express in myself.
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Re: To hirsute, or not to hirsute?
Sat, October 6, 2007 - 4:53 AMWell,my body and facial hair disgusts me. Its is my nemisis,and has been for quite awhile.
The weird part is as having a lower level intersexed condition,I didnt get any facial hair or any secondary sexual characteristic hair,until I was 18-19 yrs old.
I only recently got more hairs growing in odd spots like shoulders.
Bleeeeackkkk!!! Its so gross.
My main concern right now is having my facial hair removed before I go crazy...hahaha
I shave all my hair off everywhere but my head.
I just love smooth soft skin.It feels so good when carressed,or fabric right against my skin.
My skin is very sensitive,so I really get into sensations.
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Re: To hirsute, or not to hirsute?
Sat, October 6, 2007 - 7:17 AM''Remove the hair, and your perception of temperature will drop by at least ten degrees. Does anyone question why, aside from differences in body mass, women chill more readily than men?"
I have to say, how do we measure the above statement about women chilling more readily? We measure by their verbal response. Socially men are taught/trained to tolerate physical pain or duress. It would be socially "unmanly" to complain quickly about a chill. Women are more uninhibited to express their feelings or duress. We are taught that this is ok. After all, we are the weaker sex. haha. So, I think it is social--not a biological difference. Does anyone agree??
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Re: To hirsute, or not to hirsute?
Sat, October 6, 2007 - 7:24 AMActually, never felt a temperature difference between being shaved and being haired but then I have been shaved for so long I no longer know what I would look like with hair on my body or what it would feel like - temp -wise and I don't think I will let it grow to find out.
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Re: To hirsute, or not to hirsute?
Sat, October 6, 2007 - 9:07 AMSara:
I base my observation mainly on how female partners and I respond to the same environment. Many will be chilly when I am too warm. For me, it is not a matter of repressing pain. I am a wuss, LOL.
For me, this latest defoliation has been very recent, so I can easily remember both the warmth and animal sensation of body hair. I was used to walking around the house in my caftan and feeling very comfortable. Now, my legs get quite chilly.
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Re: To hirsute, or not to hirsute?
Sat, October 6, 2007 - 1:11 PMNope. Because they're more than willing to bitch about being too hot. -
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Re: To hirsute, or not to hirsute?
Mon, October 8, 2007 - 8:37 AMIm a natually slender low body fat person...and have always been chilled when its the slightest bit cold.I have depressed circulation in my extremities also.
Thats just my body type and other physical traits.
I have always had trouble building up my body fat deposits,until I started using certain weight gaining herbs.
However,even though Ive added quite a bit of fat layers to my self,10 lbs worth,,I still get chilled,.....weird. I just have a low energy body I guess.
That may be why some women are chilled,the lack of good circulation.
Also,there can be problems with the thyroid gland not working as well as it should.
Women seem to have more problems with the thyroid.
Hair on me has never had any effect on whether I was cold or not.It just doesnt matter for me.
Well,except my head hair,which I like to keep long,and it is thick and I love it in the cold weather,...summer is another thought though....its miserable hot and humid where I live and I can hardly keep myself from chopping my hair off during that time of the year.
I would instantly regret it,as it takes me so long to get my hair long.
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Re: To hirsute, or not to hirsute?
Sat, December 1, 2007 - 2:38 PM<<<''Remove the hair, and your perception of temperature will drop by at least ten degrees. Does anyone question why, aside from differences in body mass, women chill more readily than men?"
I have to say, how do we measure the above statement about women chilling more readily? We measure by their verbal response. Socially men are taught/trained to tolerate physical pain or duress. It would be socially "unmanly" to complain quickly about a chill. Women are more uninhibited to express their feelings or duress. We are taught that this is ok. After all, we are the weaker sex. haha. So, I think it is social--not a biological difference. Does anyone agree??>>>
I don't think it's about body hair so much as hormones. Testosterone increases your tolerance to cold/perception of external temps.. Survey enough trans folks who've taken testosterone for awhile and you'll hear this repeatedly. (Don't know if the opposite is true for MTFs). -
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Re: To hirsute, or not to hirsute?
Thu, December 27, 2007 - 7:28 AM>>>I don't think it's about body hair so much as hormones. Testosterone increases your tolerance to cold/perception of external temps<<<
If I may...seems it may differ according to body chemistry. I have been on T for years, and have a generous amount of body hair, but when I get cold, I feel it. Pre- hairy body man, I recall having a tolerance to cold as well, especially my when it came to my hands. People who generally run a low body temperature often have warm hands and feet. I am one of them.
>>>So, I think it is social--not a biological difference. Does anyone agree??<<<
As far as a 'social reaction' to temperature; I tend to agree. The image that my mind conjoured is a woman stepping in from or out into the brisk cold. Mercury at about 12 degf. She's seen with her elbows at her side, suffering a involuntary shiver accompanied by a desperate wringing of the hands clearly indicating her discomfort. The man may shrug up his shoulders and finish with a quick puff into his cupped hands and remark " It's Not Too Bad" ....
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Re: To hirsute, or not to hirsute?
Thu, November 29, 2007 - 11:21 AMInteresting topic.
Reading comments from FTMs about transitioning, I notice that many of them are very thrilled when they start growing hair, or when their hair starts being more "masculine."
Moi, I'm a big ol' furry bear-type creature, and quite content with the fur. Unfortunately, it turns off some people I'd love to play with but c'est la vie, you know?
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Re: To hirsute, or not to hirsute?
Mon, December 3, 2007 - 11:49 AMThis all came up last week when i realized that most of my female-bodied friends like
to let all of their hair grow out, while i do a fair share of 'manscaping' on myself.
I think that im in the middle; i dont mind fuzziness on myself or others,
but i dont find fighting through the bush with a machete very appealing.
Plus long hair traps sweat and smell....